Ugly clear cuts with view of Mount Hood - where are they.

[markesc]

I'd be interested to know if the clear-cutting helps increase / decrease the fire danger say in 10+ years post clearcut phase? My thought process says that the mono culture that's replanted probably doesn't help, so really, "replanting" doesn't work, but I love that they found some young hipster kids to sell out to be on those commercials. Anything for attention right? Gotta love the facecrook generation: "we'll give you some flannel shirts and YOU can be in a commercial!" or whatever feel-good sales pitch occurred.

On a brighter note, I've gotten a few photos over the years where beargrass, rhodys, or fireweed returns after the clear cuts...

You could easily find photo locations using google earth, and those Bark pea-pole mentioned earlier. Bring your sunscreen n hiking poles n tougher boots as most clear cuts have some pretty unstable slopes, and random surprises/ankle killers

Bonus points/beer if you can identify the median age, income and education level of the "people" that work in said operations.

[Aimless]

I'd be interested to know if the clear-cutting helps increase / decrease the fire danger say in 10+ years post clearcut phase?

The most fire resistant trees are the largest old growth trees. These have very thick bark which resists burning and few or no branches low enough to catch fire from a burning understory. Moderate fires can pass through an old growth grove of trees and leave all of them essentially intact with a bit of charring around the base of the trunk.

The growth in clear cuts is all small-sized and low to the ground, so that fires that pass through will pretty much destroy everything, unless it is a very, very small fire and most of the fuel is damp. Think how quickly grass fires burn. A clear cut is just a step above that kind of vulnerability.

[Waffle Stomper]

Looks like plenty of opportunities out there. Thank you.

[sprengers4jc]

I'm trying to remember if any clearcuts were visible from the Clear Lake Butte Fire Lookout. The weather wasn't all that cooperative in March so it's hard to tell from my pictures and my brain cannot recall, for some reason. Maybe Cheryl knows? Any of the fire lookouts provide an interesting viewpoint that is difficult to replicate without hiking a long ways elsewhere in MHNF.

[justpeachy]

I'm trying to remember if any clearcuts were visible from the Clear Lake Butte Fire Lookout.

You can definitely see clearcuts from that lookout, but they're not as jarring as ones you can see from other high points.

[Waffle Stomper]

Jarring is the best. I'd like to make an impact. I'm thinking Lolo Pass is probably my best bet.

[Charley]

I'd be interested to know if the clear-cutting helps increase / decrease the fire danger say in 10+ years post clearcut phase? My thought process says that the mono culture that's replanted probably doesn't help...

Just happened to read this all these years later. After the fires in the logged over foothills of the Western Cascades in 2020, seems like you were right.

[aiwetir]

It's more than likely the even aged stands that are the problem, but that's really just splitting hairs at this point.

I also think there was someone that looked at the Santiam fires, and found little difference in fire resistance based on stand age.

I'll leave you with this to think about though

[Webfoot]

Got a story to go with that?

[aiwetir]

I took that back in like 1998 near Jewell Meadows. I never really had the full story but I always suspected it was private land that was cut then donated to the refuge.

Now that I have more resources, it just looks like it's private timberland that is within the boundary of wildlife management area.

https://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources/v ... _broch.pdf

So the photo is somewhat deceptive if you don't know how an ODFW wildlife refuge works, and probably not many people do.