Ben and I were out doing some off trail nonsense but decided to descend ROA. I haven't seen anything mentioned about this previously, but the lower part of the trail was absolutely obliterated by the recent winter storms.
Here's the bottom of Devil's Backbone:
Right below that, before you start going down the hillside again:
Below this on the hillside:
Looking over towards the Horsetail Creek drainage, you can see that swaths of the forest were snapped like toothpicks:
There are large additional blowdowns almost all the way to the top of Ponytail Falls. Unfortunately, with the ROA Arch on Google maps , now that the trail is gone, tons of people are tromping all over the hillside, creating lots of new eroded paths every which way.
This is clearly unsustainable, as those paths are going to turn into the same kind of highly eroded chutes that you find cutting between switchbacks on lower Munra. This is a non-maintained trail (note: the "not maintained" sign at the bottom is now missing...), but it's clear that trails like ROA and Munra are not going to get less popular in an age of Google Maps and Instagram hashtags, and the vast majority of the new people visiting these places will be less experienced and have less respect for the surrounding foliage. If reducing impact is a priority, it seems like maybe the Forest Service needs to step in to permanently adopt and maintain these trails? I will be sad to lose Munra to the crowds (though realistically this has already happened), but things can't go on as they currently are.
Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
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Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
That is indeed not good news Nat!
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Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
I agree--they are the agency with management responsibility for the resource. But probably they have neither personnel nor funding.If reducing impact is a priority, it seems like maybe the Forest Service needs to step in to permanently adopt and maintain these trails?
Do you think the added challenge of blowdown impedes or invigorates the #instagram crowd??
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Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
Maybe both. About half of it is above the arch, and I don't think the #hashtag crowd goes past the arch. However, the lower stuff definitely obliterated the trail, which is leading people to go straight up the hillside. As each slippery user trail/chute thins out, people will move over and create a new one next to it (like on Munra). I'm sure some people will be deterred by the blowdown, as it forces them to go off trail into the foliage, but we saw a couple of groups on the hillside above us who looked extremely out of their element (no packs, breaks after every couple of steps) yet were still diligently climbing towards the arch.BurnsideBob wrote: Do you think the added challenge of blowdown impedes or invigorates the #instagram crowd??
I keep putting in requests to have the arch removed from Google maps. Realistically, both the ROA and Munra trails should probably be removed from the Field Guide to reduce impact if the Forest Service is not willing or able to adopt them.
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Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
Ugh, wonder what the old RJ looks like - might have to check it out could be a fun little OT styler now!
Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
The #InstagramEffect in action...Bosterson wrote:Maybe both. About half of it is above the arch, and I don't think the #hashtag crowd goes past the arch. However, the lower stuff definitely obliterated the trail, which is leading people to go straight up the hillside. As each slippery user trail/chute thins out, people will move over and create a new one next to it (like on Munra). I'm sure some people will be deterred by the blowdown, as it forces them to go off trail into the foliage, but we saw a couple of groups on the hillside above us who looked extremely out of their element (no packs, breaks after every couple of steps) yet were still diligently climbing towards the arch.BurnsideBob wrote: Do you think the added challenge of blowdown impedes or invigorates the #instagram crowd??
I keep putting in requests to have the arch removed from Google maps. Realistically, both the ROA and Munra trails should probably be removed from the Field Guide to reduce impact if the Forest Service is not willing or able to adopt them.
Karl
Back on the trail, again...
Back on the trail, again...
Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
The demo in the forum doesn't skew that way... I'm still curious about the analytics on the fieldguide itself and it's traffic load, sources, and demographicskepPNW wrote:The demo here doesn't skew anything near that, so I'd suggest this (in large part) exculpates the FG.
Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
It'd be fun to pick through, yeah. Today's contribution to Bosterson's cause...Lurch wrote:The demo in the forum doesn't skew that way... I'm still curious about the analytics on the fieldguide itself and it's traffic load, sources, and demographicskepPNW wrote:The demo here doesn't skew anything near that, so I'd suggest this (in large part) exculpates the FG.
Karl
Back on the trail, again...
Back on the trail, again...
Re: Destruction on ROA - 3/19/16
Yikes. Took my first trip up there today, and found it to be similar to Munra in that even if you want to do the right thing and stay on trail, it's damn hard, because some of the alternate routes look to be the natural way to go at first, until you get a little higher and realize they're not.
Still messy between arch and backbone, but after backbone it's lovely, really nice clean fun trail in very good condition.
Still messy between arch and backbone, but after backbone it's lovely, really nice clean fun trail in very good condition.
It's in great shape. Slightly tricky to spot the junction, if you don't know what to watch for. That was my turnaround point today, and I nearly went right by it.Eric Peterson wrote:Ugh, wonder what the old RJ looks like - might have to check it out could be a fun little OT styler now!