Wagon Road Trail #642

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Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by christabrews » December 9th, 2020, 11:58 am

We finally bought our own XC skis for this year. I was researching new places to try later this season, and found the Wagon Road Trail on the FS website. I thought it might make a good shuttle XC ski trail, since it's all downhill. However, I was wondering if it's too steep for XC skis? Looks like about 1500 ft elevation loss in less than 3 miles.

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by cfm » December 9th, 2020, 7:21 pm

The answer depends on how strong a skiier you are!

Is that the Weldon Wagon Road or the Santiam Wagon road or some other wagon road you are referring to? I've skiied two stretches of the Santiam Wagon road and it is pretty gentle. Fun tour.

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by drm » December 10th, 2020, 8:31 am

Crawford Oaks can be decent if we get some good lowland snow. I've done it a couple times. The grasslands and lack of large rocks makes it fairly easy to cover, since we rarely get a real base down low.

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by christabrews » December 11th, 2020, 1:41 pm

cfm wrote:
December 9th, 2020, 7:21 pm
The answer depends on how strong a skiier you are!

Is that the Weldon Wagon Road or the Santiam Wagon road or some other wagon road you are referring to? I've skiied two stretches of the Santiam Wagon road and it is pretty gentle. Fun tour.
It's this wagon road trail, starts at Cloud Cap:
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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by bobcat » December 11th, 2020, 8:14 pm

I don't think you can do this as a shuttle. If there's enough snow to ski, then Cloud Cap Road will be closed as well. Most people take the Tilly Jane Ski Trail to the Cloud Cap area; some stay overnight at Tilly Jane. It's a good trail, decent grade for both going up and down on regular X-country skis. There should always be tracks, so you won't get lost.

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by christabrews » December 12th, 2020, 8:39 am

Oh okay, got it. Thanks!

The FS website said that the trail is best done downhill on skis, so I thought that mean the TH would be accessible.

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by cfm » December 12th, 2020, 9:08 am

Yes that is a good spot to ski. You can go up it, it's not too steep. In the early part it can be messy with lots of boot and snowshoe tracks, but people without skis dont get very far, so when you get higher up it will smooth out.

If you are a strong climber, a great tour is to go up the Tilly Jane trail and come down the wagon road- and you dont even need to stay on the road- the forest has some very fine gentle downhill for making nice wide step turns.
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Just below Cloud Cap

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Re: Wagon Road Trail #642

Post by drm » December 16th, 2020, 7:55 am

Since the area is burned, you need a pretty good snow base to cover fallen trees.

And just a note that the Tilly Jane Trail is steep. You need strong skiing skills to come down that trail. And you probably need climbing skins to ski up it.

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