Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

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Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by bush_marmot » July 14th, 2008, 8:11 pm

Topspur/McNeil Point/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Amazing how fast the snow melts this time of year!!! You can see changes from morning to evening on a dayhike!
And in just 3 days...

...the difference in snowpack on the Topspur/McNeil Point trail, from Wednesday http://www.portlandhikers.org/forum/vie ... ?f=8&t=333 to Saturday was tremendous!
On 7/9, the trip to McNeil Point involved long stretches of routefinding on deep uneven snow, and the trail (where it decided to show itself) was chock-full of those pesky little “zero feet to 6 feet deep in 2 steps” snowbanks...


...but it was definitely worth it to get there!
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But by Saturday 7/12 evening, more than half the route was melted out, and much of the remainder had visible bits of trail (or sawn logs) spaced at convenient intervals...
...with boot prints tracking across the snow much of the rest of the way. Quite a change in just three days of Summer!


Curiously, this year is a more-or-less ‘normal’ July in the high country; the wildflowers are coming out now, and the heather is beginning to bloom.
High_On_The_Heather.jpg
But in the mid-elevation forests, it’s still mid-June.
The slowest-melting part of the trail (a North-facing hillside in the shade), from the PCT/Timberline Trail junction http://www.portlandhikers.org/forum/dow ... &mode=view
to the McGee Creek Trail junction, could be mostly bypassed by taking the Timberline Trail (the old PCT) ‘counterclockwise’ around the mountain, across the snow-free South side of Bald Mtn, and then hopping back over the ridge to the Timberline Trail going ‘clockwise’, on the short connector (not shown on some maps) at the low point in the ridge (before the Muddy Fork section washout - http://www.portlandhikers.org/forum/vie ... ?f=8&t=342).

The next half mile or so, past the McGee Creek junction, the trail was still mostly buried on Saturday, but the snow wasn’t deep, and the going is easy here.

There is still quite a lot of deep snow on the lower part of the McNeil Point cutoff trail (still looks like Wednesday), and on the switchbacks just below where it leaves the Timberline Trail http://www.portlandhikers.org/forum/dow ... &mode=view
but it’s easy to follow the route through here, the snow is soft in the sun, and the trail breaks out onto the mostly-snowfree ridge pretty quickly.

And there you are! :D
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The trail heading up the ridge from McNeil Point shelter leads to ever-bigger views:
Yocum_Ridge_From_Ho_Rock_Trail.jpg
Sandy_River_Valley_And_Bald_Mtn.jpg

The big rock jumble at the top of this trail (“Ho” Rock), at approximately 7100’, is a good stopping place:
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...and is an outstanding viewpoint:
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...to the West:
Across_Sandy_Glacier.jpg

...to the North:
Ho_And_Mt_St_Helens.jpg

...and to the South along Cathedral Ridge, to “Co” Rock, at about 7300’:
Co_Rock_Mt_Hood.jpg

Climber’s routes continue South from here (Ho Rock) along both sides of the ridge, eventually connecting to the Mt Hood Cathedral Ridge climbing route at the prominent rock horn (“Cathedral Horn”) visible on Mt Hood’s left hand skyline at about 9000’. Proceeding South past Ho Rock involves scrambling and climbing on scree and loose rock on the right (Sandy Glacier) side, or a very steep glacier traverse on the left (Glisan Glacier) side. The Glisan looks benign in early season, but it has a moat along the cliff’s edge (melting deeper by the day) and, believe it or not, a few ‘real’ crevasses; and sometimes ice is just inches below the soft snow surface. Topspur to Ho Rock makes for a lively dayhike; the views are spectacular and you've climbed 3000' through some lovely country. Co Rock is only a couple of hundred feet higher, and is a mile away across some very rugged landscape. Climbers... proceed at your own risk (but you knew that).
:D


Here are some views along the glacier traverse from Ho to Co (or, as some folks say, “Yo! Go Ho to Co!”).
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Here’s a view of Mt St Helens, Bull Run & Lost Lakes, and Ho Rock (the small rock ‘thumb’ between the lakes), from the top of the very steep snow ridge just below Co Rock (my route Saturday came over the top of this snow ridge):
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A quick glissade down the Glisan Glacier from here:
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...leads to the Timberline Trail at Cathedral Ridge, and a return to Topspur.
The snow along the Timberline Trail from Cathedral Ridge back to the McNeil Point cutoff trail was quite deep Saturday, and the trail was hard to follow, though the going was easy.

Happy hiking!
Peter
:D

NOTE:
The names Ho and Co originate from old Forest Service maps, where the first two letters of the words “Hood” and “County”, in “Hood River County” lie right on top of these two summits, which are both right on the county line (which is the ridgeline here). I first heard the names many years ago, and have used them ever since.

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Re: Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by fettster » July 15th, 2008, 7:20 am

Wow, I wonder how long that balancing rock has left? You had quite a few tidbits of info there, thanks for posting!

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Re: Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by madisonhikers » July 16th, 2008, 1:43 pm

Was on the Top Spur to McNeil Pt "trail" yesterday(Tues. 7/15). Still small patches of snow up to the Timberline Trail/PCT junction. Plenty of snow(with some breaks) from here to the top of the ridge meadows, being mostly north-facing. Only saw a few markings/trail tape on this section. Dry at the meadows(5100') with wonderful flowers/views, but then gets into much deeper snow(and snow on south-facing slope(s)) near the cut-off/short-cut trail to the shelter. Unless you really know your way or are GPS-dependent, would discourage others from continuing on the Timberline Trail. You can make your way up the short-cut trail to the shelter, and further up from there but bring plenty of sunscreen. Did you make it up to the shelter from the short-cut trail or from the Timberline/loop trail? Great pics!

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Re: Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by bush_marmot » July 19th, 2008, 6:31 pm

madisonhikers wrote:Did you make it up to the shelter from the short-cut trail or from the Timberline/loop trail?
I went up to the shelter on the steep (short-cut trail) side of the McNeil Point loop trail #600M; I haven’t been on the ‘gentle’ side of the 600M Trail (from Cathedral Ridge/Timberline Trail to McNeil shelter) yet this year (no tracks).
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I got back to the Timberline Trail (via the Glisan Glacier) at Cathedral Ridge, to return to Topspur.
Up in the high country at McNeil Point and above, it’s a more-or-less normal July:
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But the Timberline Trail on 7/12 was comPLETEly buried with snow from Cathedral Ridge back to the McNeil Point short-cut trail junction, except at a few creek crossings. The big stream coming off the Glisan Glacier was snowed over solid at ~6000', and the two ponds were deep snow basins (perhaps 6 feet deep or more).

The route along the Timberline Trail is easy to follow through here - if you’re familiar with it. There are plenty of distinctive landmarks (unlike the Timberline Trail from the PCT/Timberline/Topspur junction to McGee Creek junction) including: a big, steep, mossy green creek; a straight stretch through a mostly-open forest of small trees; a big, stable boulderfield just uphill from where the trail crosses a big meadow; the 2-pond (now 2-snowfield) basin; a couple of tiny ridge crossings; and a big, open streambed meadow valley with a river canyon at its downhill end.

If you’re not familiar with the Timberline Trail’s route through here (from the McNeil Point "short-cut" trail to Cairn Basin, and beyond) in the absence of the trail... it’s pretty easy to get off-route here... even though the going is “easy” (looks like this):
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Happy hiking!
Peter
:D

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Re: Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by retired jerry » July 19th, 2008, 7:43 pm

That looked like a nice trip, thanks for the report.

I can't wait to go up there and check it out myself.

Weird how there's more snow lower down along the Timberline Trail and less snow higher up.

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Re: Topspur/McNeil Pt/Ho-to-Co traverse/Timberline Trail 7/12/08

Post by Waffle Stomper » July 26th, 2008, 8:08 pm

bush_marmot wrote:
madisonhikers wrote: If you’re not familiar with the Timberline Trail’s route through here (from the McNeil Point "short-cut" trail to Cairn Basin, and beyond) in the absence of the trail... it’s pretty easy to get off-route here... even though the going is “easy” (looks like this):
On_The_Timberline_Trail_7_12_08.jpg
Happy hiking!
Peter
:D
We just went up today and suggest that nothing has changed significantly on the timberline trail going towards the ponds. There is still a lot of snow and not well travelled. Not a good route unless you have confidence in your route finding skills. With the cool summer we are having it looks like it will be a while before that melts out.

Hikers told us that the area near the shelter had a wonderful display of flowers. We opted not to go beyond. Much too difficult for my older dog. There will be another day for that with her happily napping on my bed.
"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe." - John Muir

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