Thought I'd post these separately, as they're not typical trip report material, but they're also from my trip to Elk Cove a couple weeks ago. You may have seen it in other trip reports, but there was sizable avalanche that swept into the southwest corner of Elk Cove over the winter. These are common at the cove, but only a few are large enough to sweep away forests -- and this one did!
Looking down from 99 Ridge, you can see the avalanche debris field plainly:
As you step into the meadows of Elk Cove on the Timberline Trail, you can see the debris field just upstream, along Cove Creek:
Close-up, it's easy to see the power of an avalanche -- whole trees 18" in diameter were snapped off and carried down in the event:
Panoramic view showing the extent of the debris field:
This view is looking upstream from the edge of the debris field to the upper reaches of Cove Creek, where the beautiful wildflower gardens are completely untouched:
As of a couple weeks ago, there was still several feet of snow from the avalanche under the debris -- and Cove Creek has found a way under the pile, forming a snow cave:
If you poke around forest downslope from the avalanche debris field, you'll find some old stumps like this one (below) -- reminders that any tree in Elk Cove can be taken down in a big avalanche, even a giant like this one! My guess is that this stump is from the early 1960s avalanche that also destroyed much of the old CCC shelter that once stood in Elk Cove.
If you do go to check this out, walk gently around the margins. What looks like bare ground is actually wildflower meadow that is very late in emerging because of the amount of snow dumped here by the avalanche.
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Thank you for your informative report, Tom.
The conventional explanation of geographic change is that it happens on "geologic time", not human time, so is invisible to us mortals. But your report suggests a herky, jerky evolution where the landscape is static most of the time but changes incrementally in human-observable events.
Anyone remember Hwy 35 being closed by the White Water Glacier outburst flood? Or the north side debris flows and erosion damage from the Feb 1996 flood event? Or Mt St. Helen's lateral blast?
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The conventional explanation of geographic change is that it happens on "geologic time", not human time, so is invisible to us mortals. But your report suggests a herky, jerky evolution where the landscape is static most of the time but changes incrementally in human-observable events.
Anyone remember Hwy 35 being closed by the White Water Glacier outburst flood? Or the north side debris flows and erosion damage from the Feb 1996 flood event? Or Mt St. Helen's lateral blast?
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The 'gradualist' and 'catastrophist' schools of thought about geologic change have more or less merged, so that both are now recognized as describing some elements of geologic history.BurnsideBob wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 6:36 amThe conventional explanation of geographic change is that it happens on "geologic time", not human time
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Quite right, Aimless! Putting my geoscience nerd hat on for a moment, the early challenges to "gradualism" included Harlan Bretz, whose theories about what we now call the "Bretz Floods" or "Missoula Floods" were mocked for decades by the geological establishment... until the evidence behind his theories became overwhelming. Thankfully, he lived long enough to be recognized for his vision and genius. There's a great book "Bretz' Floods" that tells his story -- a good read!
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All of the above, Burnside -- plus the Polallie flood that took out Highway 35 in 1980 for several months. WyEast bats last!Anyone remember Hwy 35 being closed by the White Water Glacier outburst flood? Or the north side debris flows and erosion damage from the Feb 1996 flood event? Or Mt St. Helen's lateral blast?
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I was on Silver Star when the lateral blast happened. Good thing it went north, and not south, or I wouldn't be here.
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Glad you survived Jerry! Did you get any pictures?retired jerry wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 2:02 pmI was on Silver Star when the lateral blast happened. Good thing it went north, and not south, or I wouldn't be here.
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Re: Elk Cove Avalanche (August 8)
White River GlacierBurnsideBob wrote: ↑August 29th, 2021, 6:36 amAnyone remember Hwy 35 being closed by the White Water Glacier outburst flood?
Regarding Tom's pics, they should be reviewed by anybody who says "I can outrun an avalanche" or "I'm safe here, I'm in the trees".
Looks a lot like the debris left in Jefferson's Milk Creek Gully by an event in...what, 1995 I think. Jumbled mess of trees and snow, lower on the mountain than snow would normally persist into summer.
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Re: Elk Cove Avalanche (August 8)
There was also a good-sized avalanche on the east slope of Tanner Butte about 10 years ago -- some great pictures posted here by Thomas and Don Nelsen, as I recall... is that right, Don?
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Ha! Love that, Chip.Regarding Tom's pics, they should be reviewed by anybody who says "I can outrun an avalanche" or "I'm safe here, I'm in the trees".
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No camera when I saw the main eruption from Silver Star
But there is a vague picture in my head
But there is a vague picture in my head
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OK, If we ever meet on the trail, we'll have to do the Vulcan mind meld.retired jerry wrote: ↑August 30th, 2021, 5:22 amNo camera when I saw the main eruption from Silver Star
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