Broken Top's Hidden Lake (AKA No Name Lake) - 2013/08/28

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Re: Broken Top's Hidden Lake (AKA No Name Lake) - 2013/08/28

Post by Hikingindepth » December 27th, 2021, 9:29 am

Wow, such a great thread to follow. Thanks for the detective work everyone. Seems the mislabeled Crater Glacier is still being called Crook Glacier today. Perhaps because Crook no longer exist. Here's a photo I took of No Name on an October trip:
20211222 - Broken Top SE Summit.jpg
No name lake October 2020
I also found the link to the Ore Bin text to be invalid and found the updated link here if anyone is interested: https://www.oregongeology.org/pubs/og/OBv28n10.pdf

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Re: Broken Top's Hidden Lake (AKA No Name Lake) - 2013/08/28

Post by bobcat » December 27th, 2021, 11:54 am

Yes, just to summarize some of the arguments:

* No Name Lake was the source of the 1966 debris slide.
* Any crater that Broken Top may once have had has been eliminated by glacial activity; No Name Lake is in the east cirque. It is indeed the lake once labeled (and maybe only once) as Crook Lake.
* Crook Glacier is mislabeled on topo maps; it is actually the glacier/snowfield in the east cirque above No Name Lake; in 2017, a herd of 19 elk tried to cross it and were killed by an avalanche. Their carcasses could be seen strung across the snowfield later that summer. That snowfield is sometimes seen as southern arm of the Bend Glacier, to which it was once permanently joined.
* Crater Glacier is in the large crater-like (but not a crater) south cirque; no lake there. But the current topo maps say it's the Crook Glacier!

Here's an article that clarifies some of the geology around Broken Top (but adheres to the mislabeling of the Crook Glacier):

https://www.oregongeology.org/pubs/sp/SP-02.pdf

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Re: Broken Top's Hidden Lake (AKA No Name Lake) - 2013/08/28

Post by Aimless » December 27th, 2021, 4:17 pm

Because names are more or less arbitrary, if the mislabeling of Crater Glacier as Crook Glacier continues long enough its name will become Crook Glacier, no matter what it was called in the past. I guess the Oregon Geographic Names Board has the final word on these matters, but they try to follow common usage and the name Crater Glacier seems to be slipping out of the public's collective memory.

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