It looks bigger then
Oh, that's just the cropping of the picture
Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
Some meadows don't change much. Here are photos I took in the Wallowas on the trail to Long Lake in September of 1983 and the same place in August of 2015.
I'll see what else I can find.
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
are those the same four people?
Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
I know the precise spot where those pics were taken, too!
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
Only one of them are the same. You can barely see the top of one of my nephews' head (age 8 then) in the 1983 photo and that's him on the right, age 40 in the 2015 photo.
He had so much fun back then, a real hike with his dad and two of his uncles, that he wanted to go back to the same place. I was the only one besides him still in shape to do such a hike. (4 days, 30 miles and 5700'EG)
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
In would be neat if you could post a photo of the spot if you have one. Some places just beg for a photo to be taken, don't they?
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
shorts were a little shorter in 1983
Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
Interesting thing about those two Wallowas photos is that that tree/bush in the foreground center has virtually not grown at all in all this time. Over 30 years and barely a few inches of growth? The trees on the back left of the meadow, which appear to be in an avalanche chute, do seem to have grown. But there is remarkably little change in encroaching on the meadow, the treeline, anything.
The biggest change is the quality of the camera.
Hey Don, you must have some old IH photos you could go duplicate!
The biggest change is the quality of the camera.
Hey Don, you must have some old IH photos you could go duplicate!
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
Nothing very old for IH, back to the mid-nineties though. I'll take a look. Most of my earlier escapades were just trail runs and I didn't take a camera unless it was a camping trip. Of course, now, with the quality and ease of cell phone cameras, it's a different world!
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Re: Sub/Alpine meadows, fires, & climate change
Here's one from Aug 2002:Don Nelsen wrote: ↑November 7th, 2022, 2:05 pmIn would be neat if you could post a photo of the spot if you have one. Some places just beg for a photo to be taken, don't they?