General discussions on hiking in Oregon and the Pacific Northwest
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squidvicious
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by squidvicious » September 15th, 2020, 9:01 am
There's another virtual community meeting streaming tonight on their facebook @ 5:00.
https://www.facebook.com/GiffordPinchot
They're taking questions ahead of time as replies to the facebook post, if you want to raise some of the questions that have come up in this thread.
VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TODAY FOR THE BIG HOLLOW FIRE
PNW Incident Management Team #12 will be holding a virtual community meeting here on the Gifford Pinchot Facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/GiffordPinchot today, Tuesday September 15 at 5:00 PM. The meeting will be streamed via Facebook Live on the Gifford Pinchot Facebook page.
The team will be giving an update to the current situation of the fire, as well as the current and predicted weather, fire behavior, and the leader’s intent from the incident commanders. Questions can be left on this post as well as during the virtual meeting, and staff will try to answer them to the best of our ability at the end of the presentations.
The video will be saved and able to be viewed and shared for those that can’t attend during the live broadcast. Please share this message with all of those that would be interested in attending this meeting.
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kepPNW
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by kepPNW » September 16th, 2020, 9:53 am
drm wrote: ↑September 15th, 2020, 8:18 am
I just did a search on "western oregon fire cycles scholarly articles" and came up with Fire and Vegetation History from the Coastal Rain Forest of the Western Oregon Coast Range.
Thanks, Dean! Very interesting.
Karl
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OneSpeed
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by OneSpeed » September 17th, 2020, 4:04 pm
Screenshot from InciWeb today, 9-17. Fire has moved down the ridge from the north, towards Trapper Creek, in the last 24 hours. And they are saying that's where they hope to do some back burning and establish a line.
Siouxon, meanwhile, is ... well, not good.
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drm
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by drm » September 18th, 2020, 5:17 pm
It's raining over the Big Hollow fire right now. This isn't over Trapper Creek or Government Mineral Springs, but it was a few minutes ago. By the time I got my computer up to catch a screenshot, it had moved a tad north. A different cell was over the fire a few hours ago.
- Big Hollow rain
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bushwhacker
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by bushwhacker » September 22nd, 2020, 5:06 am
If one is to believe the weather forecasting models (European ECMWF in this case but the US/GFS is close to the same) Trapper Creek might see well over 3 inches of rain spread out over the next 5 days. Hopefully this pans out.
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bushwhacker
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by bushwhacker » September 25th, 2020, 3:38 pm
A couple of tidbits on Trapper Creek:
A good soaking. +1 for the weather models.
The Wind River Highway is open.
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querulous
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by querulous » October 7th, 2020, 3:27 pm
The GP has posted a Big hollow fire severity map here:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 816081.pdf
I don't think it will prove to have been a bad fire. Much more moderate and low-severity than the Eagle Creek fire. Fire perimeter may include >20,000 acres, but probably less than 2000 of that burned at high severity. A couple of square miles of upper Big Hollow got pretty well crisped, but everything else is mostly green. In the Trapper Creek Wilderness Area proper, the effects are peripheral and light. The big hollow trail up from Dry Creek (in the Bourbon roadless area, not the legislated wilderness trail) goes through a lot of high-severity area; I expect it will be something of a mess; but otherwise the trail system is probably okay.
=> note that this is a guess only. I have not been in there on the ground.
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Don Nelsen
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by Don Nelsen » October 7th, 2020, 6:00 pm
Thanks for posting the link for the fire severity. Great news that it wasn't really too bad a fire!
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