Page 1 of 1

Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 1:54 pm
by Blazersin7
I don't feel comfortable driving to trailheads/snow parks in the snow and need advice on snow chains for my 2007 Toyota Avalon. Looking for an inexpensive option that won't break in 1 season. As my comfort level increases, I might explore more this Winter and go once a week. Can anyone give me advice on snow chains and/or driving to Government Camp during this Winter season? I'd like to explore as much of Mt Hood as possible. I'm aware forest roads can get dangerous and I would avoid anything that requires high clearance or too remote.

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 2:53 pm
by retired jerry
I got some from Les Schwab. I think they were cables.

Try putting them on here first to figure out how to do it.

You put them over the top of the tires, connect, drive a short distance, tighten them if needed,...

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 6:34 pm
by texasbb
I think the cables are best for cars/sedans. There's a number of new-fangled things out there that purport to be easier to install than chains or cables, but those all seem like awkward gimmicks that won't last long (if they work at all). I prefer real chains for my truck, but you need plenty of clearance between the tire and fender/wheel well, which most road cars don't have.

I agree with the Retired One: drive your Avalon to Les Schwab and ask 'em what they recommend. And yes, practice installing them at home at least once, preferably on a windy day with some snow in your driveway. :)

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 6:42 pm
by texasbb
Blazersin7 wrote:
January 16th, 2020, 1:54 pm
I'm aware forest roads can get dangerous and I would avoid anything that requires high clearance or too remote.
When I head out on a remote road in winter, I always carry a shovel and come-alongs (e.g.). And, of course, warm clothes, good walking boots, warm blankets, some food/water. That's the one thing Survivor Man and Bear Grylls are careful to never mention: Be Prepared.

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 7:10 pm
by johnspeth
I do a lot of snow driving with a 2014 VW Jetta. I use Les Schwab chains with success. I've tried to use the cheap cables and they're nearly impossible to get on in the dark, with snow/ice, and cold hands. Chains are simpler and work better but you still have to deal with the trouble of getting them on under difficult conditions. As others have said, practice first in your driveway and bring a shovel. Pick a convenient and safe place to don/doff chains. Make sure you keep your speed low with chains or else you can do some major damage to your car.

I think chains are good for plowed or underplowed roads. They aren't for getting down a snow covered road that's never been plowed. The chains generally get you through the danger zone of 32 deg F where slippery ice limits traction.

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 9:25 pm
by adamschneider
Keep in mind that if you go when the roads are mostly clear (i.e., not during a snowstorm), there's a good chance you won't have to put on the chains on at all. All winter long, you're required to HAVE them when you drive into the mountains, but you don't need to "wear" them unless the roads are crappy.

Personally, I don't like to snowshoe unless it's a nice day, so I've never had to chain up!

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 17th, 2020, 6:21 am
by retired jerry
My previous car I don't think I ever put the chains on ahead of time.

I drove it into the snow until I got stuck on this road over the coast range. Then, while it was stuck in the snow, I got the (Les Schwab) chains out and figured out how to put them on. Since I'm writing this, I must have successfully got out.

(It was in the middle of the day and not too cold or snowy. I had a weeks worth of food and fuel to melt snow. Plenty of warm clothes.)

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 17th, 2020, 7:31 am
by Water
removed

Re: Snow Chains - Noobie

Posted: January 17th, 2020, 8:35 am
by jdemott
Don't ignore the importance of good tires for winter driving, with or without chains. When conditions are marginal, good tires can get you through without chaining up. And even with chains on, unless you put chains on all four wheels, the tires on the unchained wheels still are needed to control the vehicle.

In snowy conditions, winter rated tires (with a mountain and snowflake symbol on the sidewall) are best. Regular all season tires are mediocre in snow. But there are now tires rated for year round use which have the true winter rating.

If you stop at Les Schwab to talk about chains, it would be worth asking for advice about tires also.