The problem, of course, is that in order to get your own key, you now have to supply Google with a credit card number. Ordinary users will never trip the quota and get billed, but that's going to dissuade people for sure.RobFromRedland wrote: ↑May 15th, 2018, 7:16 amThat was my thought as well. If there was a way to specify a user key in the calls, then it would continue to work.adamschneider wrote: ↑May 11th, 2018, 10:09 pmJoseph, I'm in the same boat with GPS Visualizer. Until/unless I can get up and running with Leaflet, one thing I'm going to do is let people supply their own Google Maps API Key. You might try something similar with Gmap4.
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Also Google's revised terms of service say don't do stuff to try and get around the much lower allocation of free API downloads.
https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms
3.2.4 Restrictions Against Misusing the Services.
(e) No Circumventing Fees. Customer will not circumvent the applicable Fees. For example, Customer will not create multiple billing accounts or Projects to avoid incurring Fees; prevent Google from accurately calculating Customer’s Service usage levels; abuse any free Service quotas; or offer access to the Services under a “time-sharing” or “service bureau” model.
https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms
3.2.4 Restrictions Against Misusing the Services.
(e) No Circumventing Fees. Customer will not circumvent the applicable Fees. For example, Customer will not create multiple billing accounts or Projects to avoid incurring Fees; prevent Google from accurately calculating Customer’s Service usage levels; abuse any free Service quotas; or offer access to the Services under a “time-sharing” or “service bureau” model.
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so much for "don't be evil".....Joseph Elfelt wrote: ↑May 15th, 2018, 8:27 amAlso Google's revised terms of service say don't do stuff to try and get around the much lower allocation of free API downloads.
https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms
3.2.4 Restrictions Against Misusing the Services.
(e) No Circumventing Fees. Customer will not circumvent the applicable Fees. For example, Customer will not create multiple billing accounts or Projects to avoid incurring Fees; prevent Google from accurately calculating Customer’s Service usage levels; abuse any free Service quotas; or offer access to the Services under a “time-sharing” or “service bureau” model.
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That sucks, but "service bureau model" is very subjective, and there's lots of room for interpretation. Given that GPS Visualizer's maps are mostly designed to be downloaded and used by the person who created them, I'm probably OK. But Gmap4 — and GPS Visualizer's similar "Atlas" feature — are potentially more problematic.Joseph Elfelt wrote: ↑May 15th, 2018, 8:27 amAlso Google's revised terms of service say don't do stuff to try and get around the much lower allocation of free API downloads.
https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms
3.2.4 Restrictions Against Misusing the Services.
(e) No Circumventing Fees. Customer will not circumvent the applicable Fees. For example, Customer will not create multiple billing accounts or Projects to avoid incurring Fees; prevent Google from accurately calculating Customer’s Service usage levels; abuse any free Service quotas; or offer access to the Services under a “time-sharing” or “service bureau” model.
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Couldn't an API key just be stored under a logged in user name or session cookie if you don't want to have logins?
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If they're charging for hits on their servers, ... How about hosting the API code on your own server, rather than pointing to Google's? I've done that in the past, with deprecated code, when I couldn't update on their schedule. I suppose they wouldn't appreciate the spirit of easing their burden rather than padding their pocket, huh?Joseph Elfelt wrote: ↑May 15th, 2018, 8:27 amAlso Google's revised terms of service say don't do stuff to try and get around the much lower allocation of free API downloads.
https://cloud.google.com/maps-platform/terms
3.2.4 Restrictions Against Misusing the Services.
(e) No Circumventing Fees. Customer will not circumvent the applicable Fees. For example, Customer will not create multiple billing accounts or Projects to avoid incurring Fees; prevent Google from accurately calculating Customer’s Service usage levels; abuse any free Service quotas; or offer access to the Services under a “time-sharing” or “service bureau” model.
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Re: Gmap4 - Enhanced Google Map viewer with topographic maps
Google is made of money. I'm sure this is not about some kind of budget reconciliation, but rather about reducing 3rd party competition. Presumably there are larger entities than Gmap or Caltopo using the API that Google will now either milk for money or effectively shut down; smaller entities would then just be collateral damage.kepPNW wrote: ↑May 16th, 2018, 12:21 pmIf they're charging for hits on their servers, ... How about hosting the API code on your own server, rather than pointing to Google's? I've done that in the past, with deprecated code, when I couldn't update on their schedule. I suppose they wouldn't appreciate the spirit of easing their burden rather than padding their pocket, huh?
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I plan to use cookies. My concern is that just GETTING a key will be a significant hurdle for many people.
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I have not looked at the kind of info Google requires to get a key. But since keys are intended for software developers I am guessing most people will be spooked by the questions and/or unable to answer. Plus there is the requirement to give Google your credit card # and agree to be charged if you exceed the free API download allocation.
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I have an old API key from the early days of using your GPS visualizer Adam, haven't done anything with it in years but so you that that would still be good if needed.adamschneider wrote: ↑May 16th, 2018, 7:21 pmI plan to use cookies. My concern is that just GETTING a key will be a significant hurdle for many people.