Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Chase » July 7th, 2012, 8:10 am

Trail conditions update as of July 6, 2012:

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Click here for a large, scrollable version of the map.

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Please notify me if you notice a change in trail conditions.

[edited July 8 due to height and spelling transgressions]
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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Splintercat » July 7th, 2012, 8:46 am

Nice, Chase - I love it! Your original map sort of melted on screen (in my browser, at least), so I posted a web version with a link to a larger version.

Great information -- looking forward to the trip reports this summer!

I have one question about the route, and it's at the very end: it looks like you've followed the Starvation Cutoff trail (steep, unstable switchbacks), so probably couldn't tell from my tiny, original map that I'd intended to have the Hatfield follow the Starvation Ridge Trail all the way back to the trailhead (e.g., across Cabin and Warren Creeks, past the junction with the Defiance Trail, then to the trailhead). My thinking was based on the suitability of the Cutoff Trail for backpackers, but maybe it's just another option to list along the way?

Tom

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by retired jerry » July 7th, 2012, 8:56 am

Nice! - Chase and Tom and ...

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Eric Peterson » July 7th, 2012, 8:58 am

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o

6' 6'' ?!?!?!?

Try 6' 3.75''

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by mcds » July 7th, 2012, 9:17 am

awesome map of the Chase-Hatfield Trail, especially the full size version with timestamped annotations. and the trail condition guide with photos is brilliant, including the hilarious 'imbediments'. thanks for all your work !

splintercat - muchos gracious for project conceptualization !

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Chase » July 7th, 2012, 9:59 am

mcds wrote: including the hilarious 'imbediments'. !
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn't catch that one at all. Thanks!

Eric is 6'6" according to my official made-up info. I asked him how tall he was and he said he was taller than me. Therefore, he's 6'6".

Splinty, thank you so much for making a larger, clearer version of the map. My computer skills must've had breakfast with Roy's and therefore my version was all blurred-out. You made it look much better.

In my opinion, the switchbacks at the bottom of Starvation need to be made a little more backpacker friendly and then I can see no reason why anyone would not want to take them. I can change the map on future versions, though, to reflect your true Hatfield Trail.

Thanks for all your input, everyone!

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Splintercat » July 7th, 2012, 4:49 pm

Chase, I'll admit an ulterior motive on the longer route -- I'd like to see bridges on Cabin and Warren creeks to make the lower loop a year-round option, so the Hatfield concept might be a way to bring that idea along. I do think the cutoff could be reconstructed to be a bit safer -- it's pretty much a goat path in the lower sections right now.

Tom :)

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Splintercat » July 7th, 2012, 5:21 pm

Okay, in concept only, here's what a Mark O. Hatfield route sign might look like -- along the lines of the PCT signs, this sign would help trekkers know if they've taken the right turns along the innumerable junctions along the route. I couldn't decide to make this an embossed metal or painted oak sign, so went with the latter, though this could work as a branded 5x5" block, too. Wanted to preserve Senator Hatfield's image, in particular:

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(note that I bolted it to a standing snag... no living trees were harmed in this simulation!)

-Tom

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Splintercat » July 7th, 2012, 5:23 pm

...and I should add, that I chose not to riddle this sign with bullet holes, either... didn't think the shooters would get that far from their pickups & coolers... ;)

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Re: Mark O. Hatfield Memorial Trail Project

Post by Dustin DuBois » July 7th, 2012, 9:38 pm

Splintercat wrote:...and I should add, that I chose not to riddle this sign with bullet holes, either... didn't think the shooters would get that far from their pickups & coolers... ;)
Collapsible lightweight .22 rifle (or just a sidearm) and a flask, problem solved! =P I kid. Anyway, I like the sign concept. How long do you think the painted image would last compared to an engraved/embossed metal sign? I think an embossed metal sign would look a little better on the trail but maybe not be quite as visible. Maybe a painted, embossed metal sign? Then when the paint wears off, there is still the metal to last until it can be replaced. Or somethin =D.
Hi!

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