Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

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Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by Don Nelsen » July 6th, 2021, 4:38 pm

Spotted this in the middle of the Alway trail on the 4rth. The largest is about the size of a quarter.
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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by Don Nelsen » July 8th, 2021, 7:57 am

adamschneider wrote:
July 6th, 2021, 5:18 pm
Probably gnome plant.
Adam,

Thanks for the ID! Too bad this is in the middle of the trail where it's likely to get stepped on.
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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by Don Nelsen » July 9th, 2021, 1:12 pm

Waffle Stomper wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 11:06 am
Could it be a Northern Ground Cone
https://www.northernbushcraft.com/plant ... /notes.htm
Hmmmm - could be. Thanks for chiming in too. Wow, that's two different plants I've never heard of. I guess I'll have to go back and check it out when It's had a chance to mature.

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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by dmthomas49 » July 9th, 2021, 1:29 pm

Here is a good emerging photo of a ground cone. Looks similar to your photo.
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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by bobcat » July 10th, 2021, 8:26 am

dmthomas49 wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 1:29 pm
Here is a good emerging photo of a ground cone. Looks similar to your photo.
In fact, these also look like gnome plants (Hemitomes congestum). Adam's ID was correct. (It would be interesting to know the original labeling on that photo.)

The ground cone on the northwest Oregon coast is Vancouver groundcone (Kopsiopsis (Boschniakia) hookeri). It needs to be near salt water, is parasitic on salal, and flourishes only to 500 feet elevation. It emerges in tight cone-like form, not squat and spreading like the little gnome plants. Northern groundcone (Boschniakia rossica) is found in BC and the Alaska panhandle, same habitat (very coastal) as Vancouver groundcone.

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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by Waffle Stomper » July 10th, 2021, 11:32 am

Don Nelsen wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 1:12 pm
Waffle Stomper wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 11:06 am
Could it be a Northern Ground Cone
https://www.northernbushcraft.com/plant ... /notes.htm
Hmmmm - could be. Thanks for chiming in too. Wow, that's two different plants I've never heard of. I guess I'll have to go back and check it out when It's had a chance to mature.

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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by dmthomas49 » July 10th, 2021, 5:55 pm

bobcat wrote:
July 10th, 2021, 8:26 am
dmthomas49 wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 1:29 pm
Here is a good emerging photo of a ground cone. Looks similar to your photo.
In fact, these also look like gnome plants (Hemitomes congestum). Adam's ID was correct. (It would be interesting to know the original labeling on that photo.)

The ground cone on the northwest Oregon coast is Vancouver groundcone (Kopsiopsis (Boschniakia) hookeri). It needs to be near salt water, is parasitic on salal, and flourishes only to 500 feet elevation. It emerges in tight cone-like form, not squat and spreading like the little gnome plants. Northern groundcone (Boschniakia rossica) is found in BC and the Alaska panhandle, same habitat (very coastal) as Vancouver groundcone.
I have to agree with you after seeing more example of emerging ground cones……
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Re: Mystery object: Nascent Indian pipe?

Post by adamschneider » July 10th, 2021, 9:42 pm

dmthomas49 wrote:
July 9th, 2021, 1:29 pm
Here is a good emerging photo of a ground cone. Looks similar to your photo.
Echoing bobcat: where did you get the idea those were groundcones?


This is a groundcone.
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