Mysterious Green Rocks

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by anna in boots » December 2nd, 2009, 10:33 am

ElphabaNorthWest wrote:I found a site that says what the rocks are: mordenite. See: http://www.mindat.org/blog.php/779/NWMM ... Washington
I'm not a rock hound though, so that may be a generic term and you already know that, but maybe the NorthWest MicroMineral Study Group would be willing to chat?
Thanks for keeping this thread alive. I love the hunt.

There may be mordenite in there somewhere but it's not the green matrix rock they're referring to, it's the lighter chunks inside. Zeolites tend to be whitish and creamy or slightly orange and they have all sorts of groovy formations. This stuff is just rough, no crystallization at all to the naked eye, like a lithic mud from a sedimentary layer.

Serpentine is a thought, as is olivine, but both have a yellowish-green cast more olive in hue, like a lizard and they're much harder. (Hence, olivine and serpentine.) This stuff is titillatingly blue, like a tropical oasis, most unexpected around here but very beautiful. It's almost a dead match for the blue-green patina that forms on weathered copper when it's left outdoors, which makes me think seriously about a copper deposit upstream.

I haven't stopped searching. The stuff is pretty obvious up there in the creek beds; someone must know someone. If we focus on it long enough, they'll find us.

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by anna in boots » December 2nd, 2009, 10:48 am

I'm chatting with someone in there, now, thanks! Verdict pending....

I posted an inquiry to the rock ID thread on their message boards as well.

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by anna in boots » December 3rd, 2009, 8:51 am

The rock hounds came through: celadonite. http://www.mindat.org/photo-60373.html

Still not sure about the matrix rock but the blueish chunks inside are a dead ringer.

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by ElphabaNorthWest » December 3rd, 2009, 10:01 am

Yay! I love it when a mystery is solved. From the photo it looks like holes in the rock get filled with that stuff somehow?

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by mdvaden » March 11th, 2010, 12:25 am

So is there copper that is giving the stones that color?

Nice looking stone.\\\ :?:

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by anna in boots » March 11th, 2010, 8:31 am

mdvaden wrote:So is there copper that is giving the stones that color?
To tell you the truth, md, I can't remember what he told me. He gave me so much information all at once on a bunch of things, including where to hunt for a cool formation, that my brain shelved the celadonite away and focused on the new stuff.

According to this page, there is no Cu in the chemical make up of celadonite so I'm gonna say No: http://www.mindat.org/min-926.html

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by anna in boots » February 17th, 2011, 10:47 am

One of my current weight lifting buddies is a retired geology professor. I gave him some specimens and he did all the tests--acid, scratch, cleaving, etc. Turns out, my initial instinct when I first laid eyes on the rocks was correct: tuff.

Items highlighted in blue confirm our conclusions.

PORPHYRITIC TUFF

Type Pyroclastic rock
Chemistry Felsic or intermediate
Components Together with individual crystals of augite, plagioclase and olivine, they often contain bubbly lava fragments (lapilli), volcanic ash and sedimentary material which helps cementation (zeolites, calcite) or glass.
Appearance Color light gray, pink, greenish, yellowish or brown; texture markedly clastic, with lapilli and sometimes also sedimentary rocks torn from the volcanic pipe or dislocated during rolling downslope following the volcanic explosion, mixed with ash and partly cemented by authigenic minerals (zeolites) and in part by sedimentary material (clays and calcite).
Geotectonic environment Interstratified with lava in volcanoes of a mixed explosive-eruptive type; large deposits also present at some distance from volcanic centers, in explosive zones.
Occurrence Associated with the lava of Vesuvius (Italy). Also present in ancient lavas as in the Ordovician volcanics of the Lake District (England) and North Wales. It is also found in Greece, Turkey, Germany, Indonesia, Japan and the circum-Pacific belt of the Americas.
Uses Some tuffaceous coherent rocks are used locally as construction stone and as material for the production of special cements.

So, there you have it. I'm going back this summer to get more!

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PS: It contains no copper.
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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by ErinL » February 25th, 2011, 12:46 pm

Anna,

Great resolution to this mystery rock. I guess this just goes to show that you never know who you're going to meet when you're out and about!

After reading the description of the rock, I went back and looked at its picture. You can really visualize how it was created. Very cool.

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Re: Mysterious Green Rocks

Post by tilewitch » August 22nd, 2018, 2:11 pm

Navigator 2 wrote:
July 8th, 2009, 8:54 pm
Wow, you really know your rocks. I'm afraid I don't have a sample, but you're right, it's kind of a blue-green. I just thought maybe someone has been up there and seen them. They can be found near the base of Steep Creek Falls, and then again all around the bridge where the PCT crosses.
Thanks for the info. I'll have to look up those sites.
Lynn
We have been hiking waterfalls in the Roseburg Oregon area. These rocks are bountiful here also. We have found a lot at the waterfalls on the Little River

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