New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer?

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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by TJ_T » July 11th, 2014, 6:04 pm

I use a Hoya HD Polarizer. And I'm strict on that for myself. With the kind of photography I do I need something that resists dirt, scratches, breaking, and water. With the cheap filters water spray is almost impossible to clean off. But with something that coated it beads right off with a blow of air from a rocket blower.
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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by Zia » July 11th, 2014, 6:09 pm

TJ_T wrote:I use a Hoya HD Polarizer. And I'm strict on that for myself. With the kind of photography I do I need something that resists dirt, scratches, breaking, and water. With the cheap filters water spray is almost impossible to clean off. But with something that coated it beads right off with a blow of air from a rocket blower.
Awesome! That was one I was looking at last night. Thank you for the insight :)


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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by flixter » July 13th, 2014, 6:53 am

To FluttershyIsMagic:
First have fun with your new DSLR, and second I took a quick peek at your Panoramio web page,
a great start, i must say. But now to the nitty gritty, here are some youtube web links that can help
you in making some decisions on taking photo's with your Canon T5i. Hope this helps....

This video shows how to install Magic Lantern on the Canon 650D/T4i, 700D, T5i and 600D T3i.
Once Magic lantern is installed Part 2 will go onto show how to get the most up to date RAW video features in Magic Lantern
and also how to configure those features.
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6JHRay8f2Y

Photographing Waterfalls/Long Exposure Images with Canon T4i/T5i
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uJ5kg-h1Xw

Canon T4i(650D) & T5i(700D) Learning from Live View
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxCgmqaa3eA

T5i (New Feature) Creative Filters
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed-d5WvTtfY

Back Button Focusing with the Canon T4i(650D) and T5i(700D)
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Ib1mhvjOA

How I Shoot - Canon T4i/T5i Tips and Tricks
Web Site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS1DJlSyLAU

Canon T5i video tutorials
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... o+tutorial

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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by Steve20050 » July 13th, 2014, 3:33 pm

RAW verses jpeg is always a discussion that amounts to what you wish to do with your photos. I think as stated, do both if your in doubt and your equipment allows this. There are some limits to both. Like you need the jpeg for the internet. However jpeg is basically compression and loss of detail. Here's a run down on jpeg. Take note that Each time you open and then save a jpeg info is lost.

Changed this to another site. The original decided to promote itself by changing the website info to a commercial: Try this one for an example of jpeg verses RAW:

http://galleries.goingdigital.co.uk/raw-v-jpeg-files/
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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by ElementalFX » July 13th, 2014, 10:52 pm

Thanks guys! I just bought myself a polarizer. :D I'll also try limiting the use of the LCD screen.

Oh, and I made a mistake earlier. I actually take about 200-300 photos per hike... much less than 1,500. :?

I just installed Canon EOS Digital too. I completely forgot it came with it. :oops:

I'll just keep practicing, I guess. Tomorrow, I'll be heading to Mt. Rainier again, woohoo! :D

I've decided to use both RAW and jpeg, just like some people have suggested here. I want to be able to see my pictures easier, but still have the chance to really fix up some pictures, if I happen to get lucky with a shot. Thanks guys for the useful tips and links!

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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by sprengers4jc » July 18th, 2014, 12:51 pm

Hey Fluttershy, I did a quick comparison photo shoot today, as I am about to start shooting in raw as well. The image on the left was shot on the camera in jpg, the one on the right was shot in raw. Neither were edited, this is just straight off the camera. Thought you might like a side by side comparison to see the differences.
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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by jdemott » July 18th, 2014, 3:12 pm

RAW versus jpeg can be a confusing topic. Although you could probably write a book about the subject (in fact many books have been written on processing RAW files), here are a few quick points that may simplify the issues.

1. A RAW file is exactly what it sounds like--the raw data from the camera's sensor. All digital cameras necessarily take photos in raw mode, but only some of them allow the user to access and retain the raw data.

2. A jpeg file differs from the raw data in two fundamental ways. First, the raw data are processed with various adjustments* such as color balance, contrast, sharpening, noise reduction, saturation, etc., to yield a (hopefully) pleasant looking image. If the jpeg image is generated in the camera, then the processing follows some predetermined formula, which may or may not be to your liking. Second, a jpeg file is compressed to yield a smaller file size, which makes it easier to transmit and store. The problem with the compression step is that it is basically a one-way street--once the file has been converted to jpeg, you cannot undo that step and make a different set of adjustments to the image if you decide you want less sharpening or less noise reduction for example.**

3. Camera manufacturers have spent a lot of time and money perfecting their jpeg processing formulas, so the results are often very good. Getting good results from RAW processing requires practice. An unprocessed RAW file is not likely to be as attractive as a good jpeg processed in the camera...you usually can't see the potential advantages of a RAW file until you process it.

* Processing of the raw data also includes some technical steps of de-mosaicing and converting from linear data.
** It is possible to adjust a jpeg file, but the problem is that a lot of the original data are lost in the jpeg compression, so the re-adjustment can never yield equivalent results to processing the raw data.

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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by ElementalFX » July 20th, 2014, 3:19 pm

Thanks Jdemott for the info! :D So cameras process the picture with little adjustments beforehand? Huh, I didn't know that. I just started my hand at editing RAW images, and it is pretty time consuming. I wish I knew that before taking half of my pictures at St. Helens in RAW format only. But now I am taking pictures in both formats. :) I also noticed that when increasing the saturation and contrast in RAW pictures, I didn't get the grainy over sharpness in the sky that I get when editing jpeg.


I have one more question, though. I'm still a little confused on getting the right polarizer. It turns out that the purchase on amazon failed to go through, and I didn't notice it until a few days later. It is a good thing, though, because now I'm not so sure if it will fit my camera lens.

So will this filter: "Hoya 52mm Circular Polarizer HD Hardened Glass 8-layer Multi-Coated Filter" fit my lens size?

Link to the product.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7 ... UTF8&psc=1

Thanks! :D

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Re: New Camera Equipment and lenses? RAW vs. jpeg? Polarizer

Post by ElementalFX » July 20th, 2014, 3:23 pm

sprengers4jc wrote:Hey Fluttershy, I did a quick comparison photo shoot today, as I am about to start shooting in raw as well. The image on the left was shot on the camera in jpg, the one on the right was shot in raw. Neither were edited, this is just straight off the camera. Thought you might like a side by side comparison to see the differences.
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Nice to see the comparison! :) RAW definitely looks better, colorwise. Btw, beautiful photo!

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