Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by RobFromRedland » October 20th, 2013, 6:11 am

kepPNW wrote:100 death threats, so far. (Which seems a little extreme.)

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/19/b ... oes-viral/

Just reprehensible. BSA is so messed-up... :x
I agree with you, however please don't confuse the BSA with real Scouting. Real Scouting happens at the local level and LOTS of really good things happen there. I'm a longtime Scouter, and am proud of what our small troop accomplishes and the adventures we take. I have to say that I'm somewhat embarrassed by the national organization at times. We, for the most part just ignore them and do what we need to do to help turn our boys into responsible young men.

I could easily generalize, but these guys were not "real" Scout leaders. They were appointed to their position(s), and obviously do not "get it". Involved in Scouting or not, they guys are an embarrassment to the human race. The fact that they can't take responsibility for their actions, even in hindsight is just really sad.

I do think that the death threats are a little over the top, though.
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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by retired jerry » October 20th, 2013, 6:17 am

Yeah, those were just three guys

Boy Scouts varies from location to location. Some places at some times are really good, and some the opposite. I had good experiences many years ago.

The organization has some issues to work out but that's another story...

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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by kepPNW » October 20th, 2013, 8:45 pm

RobFromRedland wrote:
kepPNW wrote:Just reprehensible. BSA is so messed-up... :x
I agree with you, however please don't confuse the BSA with real Scouting.
No worries, Rob. I totally get the distinction. If the national organization doesn't hammer hard on this one, though, the locals are only gonna be all the more marginalized. Yes, they are definitely an embarrassment to the human race.
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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by hikerbot » October 21st, 2013, 3:36 pm

kepPNW wrote:No worries, Rob. I totally get the distinction. If the national organization doesn't hammer hard on this one, though, the locals are only gonna be all the more marginalized. Yes, they are definitely an embarrassment to the human race.
To follow up to this thread, the scout leaders involved in this incident were "removed from their leadership positions and are no longer members of the BSA".

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/us/utah-b ... ?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by kepPNW » October 21st, 2013, 3:54 pm

hikerbot wrote:
kepPNW wrote:No worries, Rob. I totally get the distinction. If the national organization doesn't hammer hard on this one, though, the locals are only gonna be all the more marginalized. Yes, they are definitely an embarrassment to the human race.
To follow up to this thread, the scout leaders involved in this incident were "removed from their leadership positions and are no longer members of the BSA".

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/us/utah-b ... ?hpt=hp_t2
Nice! Exactly as it should be, IMO.
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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by RobFromRedland » October 21st, 2013, 4:13 pm

kepPNW wrote:
RobFromRedland wrote:
kepPNW wrote:Just reprehensible. BSA is so messed-up... :x
I agree with you, however please don't confuse the BSA with real Scouting.
No worries, Rob. I totally get the distinction. If the national organization doesn't hammer hard on this one, though, the locals are only gonna be all the more marginalized. Yes, they are definitely an embarrassment to the human race.
Well, it appears they did the sensible thing - they have removed them from the organization:

http://blog.utahscouts.org/news/boy-sco ... -incident/

Thank goodness for that.

Whoops! I guess someone already posted that! :oops:
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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by kepPNW » October 21st, 2013, 5:05 pm

RobFromRedland wrote:Whoops! I guess someone already posted that! :oops:
No oops; good to have it in their own words! Glad to see they're unequivocal about it. :)
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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by retired jerry » October 21st, 2013, 5:28 pm

When I first heard about this I was sort of skeptical. 65 miilion year old rock? So what, many rocks are old. etc.

I saw some pictures on the news of Goblin Valley, and googled, e.g.:
goblin%20valley%20state%20park.jpg
Seems like a unique place and if people pushed over all the boulders it would be a real shame.

That makes me think worse of them, although they shouldn't probably throw them in jail

Hopefully they'll throw out the law suit he's filing that claims he was injured in auto accident

I think he's learning his lesson

Hopefully the lesson learned isn't just that you shouldn't post incriminating evidence on youtube :)

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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by payslee » January 31st, 2014, 4:03 pm

charges filed.

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Re: Scout Leaders Destroy Boulder Formation in Utah

Post by Peabody » January 31st, 2014, 5:10 pm

Also pushed over long ago, by locals to prevent someone from gettin' hurt.

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