Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by Koda » June 8th, 2015, 4:16 pm

pablo wrote:
Koda wrote:excellent hike Pablo, I was just there Sunday... the rhodies are brutal. Im curious about the old growth along the river, was the rest of the area logged before it was designated wilderness?
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No, the small trees you see there are the result of 100 years of fire suppression. If you look at old lookout photos from Frazier Mtn or Signal Buttes the place is a rocky barren wasteland. No trees to log.

Look at this lookout pano showing Indian Ridge in the 30s. Courtesy TrailAdvocates.

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Amazing photo, so if I read into this correctly that photo suggests the area north of Indian Ridge was burned... with fire suppression since then the rhodies grew thick. This makes me more intrigued with the strip of riverside old growth....
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by Peder » June 9th, 2015, 9:05 pm

Great excursion Paul... if you except the horrible drive to the Frazier Turnaround. Obviously the Splintercat Creek must drain the Kloster Lakes! Should there be too many rhodies hindering your bushwhacking efforts - the military term "Klosterf###" will come to your mind on this hike!
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by kepPNW » June 10th, 2015, 8:24 am

Peder wrote:Should there be too many rhodies hindering your bushwhacking efforts - the military term "Klosterf###" will come to your mind on this hike!
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by BrianEdwards » June 10th, 2015, 10:26 am

Nice trip, Paul. Splintercat Creek is about as remote/central as it gets in the Roaring River wilderness. There's no easy way to get to it. Too bad the rhodies are so thick in there.
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by Greendrake » August 18th, 2015, 1:40 pm

Nice report and pics!

I was at Shining few weeks back, some other hikers I met told me
they came across 2 ODFW interns who attempted to hike to 2 of
those lakes to see if there was any fish and if there was the plan was
to potentially cut trails to them.

I've wondered if the bigger lake is Jeni Lake?
According to the Eleventh Edition of Fishing in Oregon:

JENI LAKE.
One of a number of little lakes off the beaten path in
Mt Hood stocked by ODFW....follow Indian Ridge to Shining Lake.
Hike 2 miles Jeni Lake is a 1/2 mile cross-country to the north...
Jeni is stocked with 250 Brook trout in odd number years"

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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by pablo » August 19th, 2015, 8:40 pm

Greendrake wrote:Nice report and pics!

I was at Shining few weeks back, some other hikers I met told me
they came across 2 ODFW interns who attempted to hike to 2 of
those lakes to see if there was any fish and if there was the plan was
to potentially cut trails to them.

I've wondered if the bigger lake is Jeni Lake?
According to the Eleventh Edition of Fishing in Oregon:

JENI LAKE.
One of a number of little lakes off the beaten path in
Mt Hood stocked by ODFW....follow Indian Ridge to Shining Lake.
Hike 2 miles Jeni Lake is a 1/2 mile cross-country to the north...
Jeni is stocked with 250 Brook trout in odd number years"
Interesting. They would have had a long day - I'd be surprised if MHNF allowed any trail building in there. I looked around for stuff on Jeni Lake and located a document on an FS site that listed some info on Jeni Lake. http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOC ... 207880.pdf is the URL for the .pdf file. They give Jeni Lake as being at T7S R4E S19 but I don't see anything there - looks to be over in the Molalla/Rooster Rock area. They do have a Suzi Lake at T4S R4E S19 at 2 acres, 7' deep and elevation 4240'. The location is right and this sounds like the larger of the lakes I visited.

Another reference on the Suzi Lake name can be found in a map from D. Lorain's One Night Wilderness: Portland: Quick and Convenient Backcountry Getaways where he describes the hike into Shining Lake. Got the larger lake labeled as Suzi.

That fishing guide sounds like a good resource, I'll have to pick up a copy even though I don't fish.

Thx for the info.

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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by Greendrake » August 20th, 2015, 12:52 pm

Ok the book does have Suzi Lake and its
just as you described with the directions being
"Hike Shining Lake Trail 2.25 miles, Suzi is a half-mile hike
cross country to the north past another lake of similar size."
also says its stocked with Cutthroat Trout
I'll email ODFW about Jeni Lake mabye the book confused
it with another as its listed to have been stocked with Brooktrout
as recent as 2013 which I'd be surprised ODFW would be that reckless
especially given the concern the Brooktrout of Tumala Lakes have of
getting into RR although that'd be a hell of a ride to survive via Tumala Creek.

I jumped up to the ridge last time and saw the upper lake
looks to be holding water ok given the drought this year
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by pablo » August 20th, 2015, 6:20 pm

Greendrake wrote:Ok the book does have Suzi Lake and its
just as you described with the directions being
"Hike Shining Lake Trail 2.25 miles, Suzi is a half-mile hike
cross country to the north past another lake of similar size."
also says its stocked with Cutthroat Trout
I'll email ODFW about Jeni Lake mabye the book confused
it with another as its listed to have been stocked with Brooktrout
as recent as 2013 which I'd be surprised ODFW would be that reckless
especially given the concern the Brooktrout of Tumala Lakes have of
getting into RR although that'd be a hell of a ride to survive via Tumala Creek.

I jumped up to the ridge last time and saw the upper lake
looks to be holding water ok given the drought this year
I see what is going on - the ODFW township location in the PDF I located is a typo. The T7S should be T4S as there is nothing at the location given for Jeni Lake in the document. Also, the names Jeni and Suzi sort of go together. Thx for looking this up - I just ordered that fishing guide...
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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by Greendrake » August 20th, 2015, 6:54 pm

Yep names definitely go together
I saw the map on "One Night in Wilderness"
curious where that map is from or if author
made it??
I almost wonder if upper lake is Jeni lower is Suzi
and the bigger one is Splinter Cat Lake.

You've probably already have seen this PDF if not
its a great resource for the watershed of Roaring River:
https://fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUME ... 036580.pdf

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Re: Kloster Lakes - June 6, 2015

Post by matimeo » November 6th, 2015, 4:11 pm

ODFW has a stocking schedule online for some of these high lakes that they stock via helicopter or even mule.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www. ... X63ohNVCGA

Suzi and Jeni lake both appear with coordinates that show Jeni as the more eastern lake. I can't find a more updated stocking schedule, but I understand that they stock the lakes on odd numbered years, and those two lakes are on the list.

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