Oregon Hikers

It's funny, to see this kind of ideologically driven libertarian stuff. It's like a passenger in a car with a flat tire. The driver is trying to fix things, while the passenger is screaming at the driver about broken down the car is, while running away with the jack and spare tire. The authors compl...

GREAT report! And so timely, too. I guess I'm surprised the Plains took so long to be colonized by the lupine we are all used to seeing.

I just wanted to point out the laughable richness of conservatives complaining about deaths due to poverty, suicide, etc, while having advocated against the very measures (common sense gun control, a functioning welfare state, universal access to affordable medical care) that would have prevented or...

We also have no data to support that shutdown-style mitigation saves COVID lives, assuming you're referring to (so called) scientific data. . . . What we are certain of is that shutting down the economy for 9+ months will impoverish this nation like never before, resulting in many deaths from overd...

This isn't a zombie apocalypse. It's a corona virus among the various other virus's we encounter every day, and it's not as terrifying as so many believe. We have immune systems. Sun & fresh air are good for the immune system. Social contact is good for the immune system. Mingling among crowds is g...

Personally I think the more people try to push out the letter of the law rather than following the spirit--or even just go with what they figure they can get away with--the slower it will be for outdoor recreation to open back up for everyone: "Well, we could get people back out on the trails safel...

Is it still legal to drive around in GPNF? What about car camping? Cycling/"bikepacking"? Fishing? I don't think they have answers figured out just yet.. The primary motivation for the order seems to be city people stopping at local businesses and spreading infection, so they may want to shut down ...

If you are inclined to complain about such difficulties, remember the front line medical workers who are already running flat out trying to meet the projected emergency needs of the next few months and be glad if you are not at the tip of the spear. Word. Yes, this sucks. No it doesn't suck as bad ...

Tko can release a position on a pandemic that got on everyone's radar in the last 3 months and that'll in one way or another have a terminus, but couldn't release one on a permit system that permanent implements access until further notice even with 2+ years notice :roll: :lol: Yeah, I know it's vo...

I think the point of the orders is far more important than the legalistic interpretations I'm reading in this thread. I cancelled a day of cross country skiing I was going to enjoy up in a quiet corner of Mt Hood this week. At least for the moment, I'd rather not take that remote chance of injury (e...