Hi all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I want to do either Ruckel Creek or Nesmith Point this weekend. They look similar elevation-gain wise and length, but are they different qualitatively in experience as far as the condition of the trail itself? Scree and I are bitter enemies in terms of descents, and a trail that has tons of it is to be endured rather than enjoyed. Any other thoughts on the differences between the two trails (outside of the views)? Thanks!
Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
Re: Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
Ruckel Creek is worse going down due to lack of switchbacks at the top, and it has a lot of poison oak in the lower section at this time of year. Nesmith has more of a "view" at the top... sorta. But there at least is a definite top, whereas on Ruckel you just end up wandering around on the Benson until you decide to turn around. But you also could do a Ruckel Ridge - Ruckel Creek loop, whereas there are no good loop options for Nesmith that don't require heinous off trail scrambling and/or a long road walk.
I think many of us would agree that Ruckel Creek and Nesmith are two of the least enjoyable trails in the Gorge.
I think many of us would agree that Ruckel Creek and Nesmith are two of the least enjoyable trails in the Gorge.
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Re: Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
Thanks for the advice! I figured neither were going to be fun, but training hikes they are. I can't imagine anything worse than going down the Starvation Ridge trail on Defiance, so hopefully Nesmith Point won't be too bad!
Re: Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
I just descended Starvation yesterday and thought it was charming.MartinHikes wrote:I can't imagine anything worse than going down the Starvation Ridge trail on Defiance, so hopefully Nesmith Point won't be too bad!
Anyway, sorry I missed this thread, probably too late, but I think Ruckel Creek is awful. But then, so is Nesmith. Bosterson speaks the truth. They both have charm in spots though. Take the best of both and combine them into one trail, and it would almost be worthwhile.
Tip for selecting a training route: Anybody training for a south-side Hood climb should spend time on dog mountain. You know, get used to crowds.
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Re: Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
Hmmm - for Starvation to be charming one must have to suspend the input from ones quads as they cry "enough". Actually, I like Ruckel Creek - at least its got a lot of switch backs to lessen the grade-though still not an easy hike. Are we lucky, or what, for having these wonderful and scenic quad burners in out backyard!Chip Down wrote:I just descended Starvation yesterday and thought it was charming.MartinHikes wrote:I can't imagine anything worse than going down the Starvation Ridge trail on Defiance, so hopefully Nesmith Point won't be too bad!
Anyway, sorry I missed this thread, probably too late, but I think Ruckel Creek is awful. But then, so is Nesmith. Bosterson speaks the truth. They both have charm in spots though. Take the best of both and combine them into one trail, and it would almost be worthwhile.
Tip for selecting a training route: Anybody training for a south-side Hood climb should spend time on dog mountain. You know, get used to crowds.
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Re: Ruckel Creek vs Nesmith Point
I did Nesmith Point and really enjoyed it--lots of flowers in bloom right now and the trail was fairly uncrowded. The lookout point left something to be desired, but the views on the way up more than made up for it.
Chip Down- I like Starvation going up. The ornaments on the trees are a nice touch and a steep trail is how I like ascending. But going down with the loose rock is unpleasant! It feels more like a skiing without the benefit of falling onto soft snow. Being near the edge of cliffs (especially on Table Mountain) can feel harrowing.
Chip Down- I like Starvation going up. The ornaments on the trees are a nice touch and a steep trail is how I like ascending. But going down with the loose rock is unpleasant! It feels more like a skiing without the benefit of falling onto soft snow. Being near the edge of cliffs (especially on Table Mountain) can feel harrowing.