I'm not sure about that. Studies show people drive far more recklessly, now that cars are safer. Human nature.sprengers4jc wrote:Interesting perspective. My PLB only cost me $150 and there are no other charges associated with itn but more importantly, having a PLB doesnt make people do rash things thinking they have backup.forester wrote:I've looked into the PLBs and decided against them, mostly due to cost. Part, however, is due to mindset. I kind of like not having one because I think it makes me smarter and safer when I'm out, as I don't have as much backup.
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There will always be a segment of the population who are reckless regardless. I drive fast(er) because there's not enough time in the day and I have places to be. Maybe that's why others drive fast, too. I can't"t speak for them but I harbor no illusions that the safety rating of my car will keep me safe in an accident anymore than a PLB gives me a false sense of security about my safety in the wilderness. Like anything, it's a tool for a worst-case scenario.kepPNW wrote:I'm not sure about that. Studies show people drive far more recklessly, now that cars are safer. Human nature.sprengers4jc wrote:Interesting perspective. My PLB only cost me $150 and there are no other charges associated with itn but more importantly, having a PLB doesnt make people do rash things thinking they have backup.forester wrote:I've looked into the PLBs and decided against them, mostly due to cost. Part, however, is due to mindset. I kind of like not having one because I think it makes me smarter and safer when I'm out, as I don't have as much backup.
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I think they might have a causation issue here. I think people drive faster because people.kepPNW wrote:I'm not sure about that. Studies show people drive far more recklessly, now that cars are safer. Human nature.
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It can be a difficult link to establish, but it's there. People simply engage in riskier behavior when they feel safer. Because, as you say, people.aiwetir wrote:I think they might have a causation issue here. I think people drive faster because people.kepPNW wrote:I'm not sure about that. Studies show people drive far more recklessly, now that cars are safer. Human nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 075637.htm
http://regressing.deadspin.com/do-safer ... 1526003215
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or football helmets make players take bigger hits
This doesn't necessarily apply to an individual, but studies say it's so for a population
This doesn't necessarily apply to an individual, but studies say it's so for a population
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Another great example!retired jerry wrote:or football helmets make players take bigger hits
Probably the single most misunderstood element of stats, yep.retired jerry wrote:This doesn't necessarily apply to an individual, but studies say it's so for a population
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although sometimes people fool themselves, only think they won't drive faster if they have seatbelts or whatever
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I'd agree wholeheartedly if you'd drop the "Probably." It's hard any more to find an American who understands the difference between a statistical truth and an individual one. Almost unheard of among journalists. Sadly uncommon even among doctors and other professionals.kepPNW wrote:Probably the single most misunderstood element of stats, yep.retired jerry wrote:This doesn't necessarily apply to an individual, but studies say it's so for a population
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While out riding my bike and debating when and where to pull out on a busy road, a friend said to me "If there's doubt, there's no doubt." This is my new mantra when I consider doing something in the back country. The other easier one to remember is "If you have to ask..."
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but sometimes something appears to be risky, but if you start doing it, it becomes straightforward
if you're too risk averse, you'll miss some interesting things
if you're too risk averse, you'll miss some interesting things