Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by xrp » March 19th, 2018, 7:54 pm

Webfoot wrote:
xrp wrote:Excellent! It is time for park-goers to pay their fair share for preserving and protecting our public lands.
If my figure are correct and only six percent of the budget comes from Park fees then the rate would need to go to $250 each, and even that wouldn't cover it because far fewer people would visit the parks which such high fees. Is that really the direction you think this should go?
No, it looks like the NPS/Dept of the Interior is trying to find where the economic equilibrium is. If past price increases did not negatively impact demand (usage), then it means the price was too low.
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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by Aimless » March 19th, 2018, 8:27 pm

it looks like the USFS is trying to find where the economic equilibrium is.

Um, the NPS runs National Parks and are in the Dept of Interior. The USFS is in the Dept of Agriculture and has zero connection to NP entrance fees.

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by Guy » March 19th, 2018, 8:46 pm

xrp wrote:
Guy wrote:Having to pay $45.00 just to "see the lake" is not on and it does unfairly target those with less income.
Sorry, but you are employing 20th century thinking. No one needs to go to Crater Lake to “see the lake”.

Example:

Image

There. That cost next to nothing.

By employing “virtual visitation”, we can accomplish the following:
Haha, as I've said before you are nothing if not predicable xrp :lol: :lol:

I intend to keep fighting for "actual visitation" for all to land that's owned by us all. But hey feel free to knock yourself out with that virtual visitation thing.
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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by xrp » March 20th, 2018, 4:08 am

Aimless wrote:it looks like the USFS is trying to find where the economic equilibrium is.

Um, the NPS runs National Parks and are in the Dept of Interior. The USFS is in the Dept of Agriculture and has zero connection to NP entrance fees.
Thank you for the correction. I will amend my post.

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by xrp » March 20th, 2018, 4:09 am

Guy wrote: I intend to keep fighting for "actual visitation" for all to land that's owned by us all. But hey feel free to knock yourself out with that virtual visitation thing.
Why do you need to fight? No one is excluded from the National Parks.

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by retired jerry » March 20th, 2018, 6:11 am

Each of us could spend our life in a little self contained module with no windows or doors, just monitors.

A little door for food to be delivered through :)

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by romann » April 1st, 2018, 4:35 pm

Pending Zinke's approval, the fees could go up June 1 for Mt Rainier.
https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/ ... -increases
During the five months of each park’s peak season, fees would increase from their current rates of around $25 or $30, to $70 for automobiles, $50 for motorcycles, and $30 per person on bike or foot. Fees for commercial tour buses would also rise.

After NPS responds to public comments, Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke will decide whether to approve implementing the higher fees at 17 parks. Starting May 1, 2018, fees would increase at Arches, Bryce Canyon, Canyonlands, Denali, Glacier, Grand Canyon, Grand Teton, Olympic, Sequoia & Kings Canyon, Yellowstone, Yosemite, and Zion National Parks. Beginning June 1, 2018, fees would increase at Acadia, Mount Rainier, Rocky Mountain, and Shenandoah National Parks, and as soon as practicable this year at Joshua Tree National Park.

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by romann » April 1st, 2018, 4:40 pm

No one needs to go to Crater Lake to “see the lake”.
XRP you were trolling, right :lol:

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by drm » April 3rd, 2018, 2:16 pm

Notice today that they got 100,000 comments, overwhelmingly negative, so they are rethinking the proposal, whatever that means.

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Re: Zinke proposes $70 entrance fee at some National Parks

Post by Bosterson » April 4th, 2018, 8:52 am

xrp (in a different thread) wrote:
retired jerry wrote:same here, no big deal

not that there aren't problems, nobody's perfect

it's amazing we have so much access to so many amazing places with only minimal fees if anything
Agreed! Yet another reason why the potential increases in National Park access is no big deal, either!

Happy dances all around!
National parks to rethink plan to hike entrance fees after widespread anger
The Guardian wrote:The interior department press secretary, Heather Swift, said the Trump administration decided to rethink its proposal after Americans flooded the National Park Service (NPS) with more than 100,000 comments, many of them sharply critical of the proposed surge pricing scheme.

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The National Parks Conservation Association, or NPCA, conducted a statistical analysis of the public comments and said it found that approximately 98% were opposed to the fee increase.

“Americans did not like this ill-conceived proposal from the administration and they spoke out,” says Emily Douce, the NPCA’s director of budget and appropriations.
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